Helion Energy to demonstrate net electricity production by 2024

[mvanwink5]

I can’t understand why Elon Musk talks about Tokamak first wall heat problem as representative of Fusion (latest pod cast, at the end, around 1hr25min), when Helion Energy converts plasma power via magnetic dynamics. If someone is going to speak on a subject as important as Fusion for energy, at least be somewhat informed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_VfR-CyuM

[baking]

I can’t understand why Elon Musk talks about Tokamak first wall heat problem as representative of Fusion (latest pod cast, at the end, around 1hr25min), when Helion Energy converts plasma power via magnetic dynamics. If someone is going to speak on a subject as important as Fusion for energy, at least be somewhat informed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_VfR-CyuM

You listened to all that nonsense, and that is what you had a problem with? First off, he has the scaling wrong. You double the size of the tokamak and you get eight times the volume, so eight times the fusion power, but only four times the area of the first wall, so making the tokamak bigger makes the heat problem worse, not better.

Also, he is in a lawsuit against OpenAI, so he's not going to give any credence to Helion, or even mention it.

But he and Sam Altman both believe in Dyson Spheres even though they are a literal physics joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLzEX1TPBFM

Bonus Elon: "Let's just say I'm not going to build a robot army if I can be easily kicked out by activist investors, no way."

[mvanwink5]

EM made the point that Tokamak can ‘work’ by simple scaling, not wrong, but the issue is Tokamak practicality, & EM points it out by citing it has a wall challenge. My point is that the wall problem is Tokamak’s problem not Fusion’s problem. It's a simple logic error.

Yes, it's not the only logic error EM made & my intent was not to exhaustively analyze what he said, but none of the ‘group’ called him on such a simple logic error.

Sam Altman cannot be the only reason to discount Fusion as there are many other 'non Altman’ Fusion projects that do not have a first wall problem. So, it made no logical sense to me even on that visceral level. Moreover, why push an obviously illogical argument against all Fusion Projects?

Anyway, at some point near term, the debate about Commercial Fusion will end & it really won’t matter then.

[mvanwink5]

baking,
Thank you for that YT link, it was a hilarious deconstruction of ‘Dyson Spheres’ & further, I had never heard that Dyson intended it to be a joke (even to me it was an absurd idea, could not understand why Dyson would write about it, but now it makes sense). Because ‘Dyson Spheres’ were
absurd, I never investigated them; glad someone YT’d about it.

The issue is people that actually make pigs that fly get listened to when they say they will make elephants that fly, whales that fly, men have babies, & Communism can ‘work.’ Just say, ‘First Principles’, then seriously say, 'X, Y, Z’ absurdities.