Idaho Will Sue

Discuss life, the universe, and everything with other members of this site. Get to know your fellow polywell enthusiasts.

Moderators: tonybarry, MSimon

Post Reply
MSimon
Posts: 14335
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Rockford, Illinois
Contact:

Post by MSimon »

OK how about a few:
“Every generation needs a new revolution.”

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.”

“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”

“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”
Let me remind you that your ancestors welcomed the tyrant with waving flags and flowers. They didn't see it coming.

The air is clearer over here.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

Skipjack
Posts: 6898
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Post by Skipjack »

Quotes, they dont mean anything.
I have a few quotes for you too, you would not like them...

Diogenes
Posts: 6976
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:33 pm

Post by Diogenes »

Skipjack wrote:
I know that I and my countrymen are Angry,
No, you and SOME of your countrymen are angry.
Only the one's for which I have respect. The idiots are dancing with glee.
Skipjack wrote: Personally I think you are waaaay over reacting. You are getting upset about nothing too. It is going to cost you much less than the stupid, pointless war in Iraq cost you.
There you go again with that silly statement. The Cost of the Iraq war wouldn't pay the Tax on the cost of this Health care plan. Social Security and Medicaid alone already are 57 trillion dollars in the hole, BEFORE this crap was added to it.

You see, we have a LONG history of Democrat Plans and their success. Since Andrew Jackson (The First Democrat President. They Claim Thomas Jefferson, but Jefferson would have nothing to do with them. ) They have migrated from one horribly bad program after another.

You like History? Study the History of Programs created by the Democrat Party. The one thing they all have in common is they make things worse, and they burn money like throwing it into a furnace. Actually, throwing the money in the furnace would probably be a BETTER use of it.

You can start HERE. The Racist History of the Democrat Party.



Skipjack wrote:
You are whining around and shouting and strangling like little babies that have lost their lollypops. You guys have been doing that ever since the election and now it is even worse. I personally applaud Obama. I think he achieved something great, something that will help people like me, that got into a bad situation without it being their fault. Of course you cant see that possibility because your field of view is so narrow. You are narrow minded that is what you are! You are unable to empathize with anyone.
You must not read everything I write. I recall no sympathy from you whatsoever concerning how the States prevent the poor from driving on the public roads.
THAT is a REAL right. We must first protect our real Rights before we concern ourselves with made up rights.


You also seem to have difficulty understanding that charity is not the duty of Government. It is the duty of the public.

Skipjack wrote: You probably dont even no, or you can not even comprehend the situations that some people are in. I pitty you and I laugh at you because of that.

Your Pity is misplaced, and I deal with children who know more than me all the time. They sometimes laugh at my ignorance.

Diogenes
Posts: 6976
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:33 pm

Post by Diogenes »

MSimon wrote:
No, you and SOME of your countrymen are angry.
Personally I think you are waaaay over reacting. You are getting upset about nothing too. It is going to cost you much less than the stupid, pointless war in Iraq cost you.
You were never cut out to be an American.

Watch the old guy in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uajSiDo ... r_embedded

He is an American. Why do I fight? For him. For me. For those who prefer liberty over security.
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" Samuel Adams

I was thinking of posting that myself! The old man is very poignant about what he fled in the "Old Country."

Diogenes
Posts: 6976
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:33 pm

Post by Diogenes »

Skipjack wrote:Msimon and Diogenes, you both dont make any sense.

Diogenes, of course the devil would have to believe in god, otherwise he cant do what he is supposed to do. So he would have to be of the same faith or otherwise he cant be the same devil.
Anyway...
Did you just say the Devil has to be a Christian? Tell me you didn't just say that! :)

Skipjack wrote: I find this conspiracy theory and the general thinking just as pathetic as those that were saying that Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks. Thinking about it actually, these are even worse ;)
The one is just a matter of faith and a belief in the Supernatural. The other can be falsified with evidence.

As I have mentioned before. It does not bother me that people believe in religion. Religion has done some bad things in History, but I believe it has done more good than bad.

Why would you mock people for their spiritual beliefs?

Why wouldn't you mock people who think that "Fire cannot melt Steel" ?(Rosie O'Donald, one of the Most Famous 911 "truth-er" conspiracy nuts. )
Skipjack wrote: I think that americans generally just dont like and dont trust their government and therefore they love the idea of the big conspiracy...
The Sinister (left) Lunatics hate the Government when it is in Republican Hands, and Love it when it is in Democrat hands.

The Dexter (right) Hate the Government when it is in Democrat hands, and Dislike it when it is in Republicans Hands.

Diogenes
Posts: 6976
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:33 pm

Post by Diogenes »

Skipjack wrote:
You were never cut out to be an American.
I was not, but I am now. I had to learn how to betray and lie to my businesspartners in order to make better profit first.
Sounds like you're on your way to being a Democrat. Especially a Chicago or New York style Democrat.

MSimon
Posts: 14335
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Rockford, Illinois
Contact:

Post by MSimon »

Skipjack wrote:
You were never cut out to be an American.
I was not, but I am now. I had to learn how to betray and lie to my businesspartners in order to make better profit first.
Well you are not cut out to be an American I would respect. I have never in my life done any such thing and have quit or gotten fired from more jobs than I can count because I would not do any such thing.

Evidently your next meal is more important to you than your self respect.

I'm one of those "Death Before Dishonor" Americans. It is so sad when I see some one who will sell their integrity for a mass of pottage.

https://realbikers.com/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=789
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

Skipjack
Posts: 6898
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Post by Skipjack »

You must not read everything I write. I recall no sympathy from you whatsoever concerning how the States prevent the poor from driving on the public roads.
THAT is a REAL right. We must first protect our real Rights before we concern ourselves with made up rights.
You can always drive a carriage, just not a car...
Right retained, just not the way you want it.
You want people to drive arround like crazy, injuring others, then leaving the innocently injured with the medical bills that they wont be able to pay because you dont want them to have insurance!
Well you are not cut out to be an American I would respect. I have never in my life done any such thing and have quit or gotten fired from more jobs than I can count because I would not do any such thing.
First, I learned that the hard way from a republican, mormon, CEO. "There is no friendship in business". I will remember that for the rest of my life. Second, I still wont do that (yeah I am that kind of fool), but I had to learn to expect that when I do business with an american, republican, religious businesspartner.
So maybe I am not cut out to be an american because I refuse to betray people and I believe in friendship. If these things are a requirement, I dont want to be one anyway.

My wife thinks the same way, I do btw and she is an american citizen (5th generation or so). But maybe she is not cut out to be an american either?
Hmm, I gotta tell her that, she sure would love it.
Did you just say the Devil has to be a Christian? Tell me you didn't just say that!
Well, he would kinda have to believe in his own existance, doesnt he?

MSimon
Posts: 14335
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Rockford, Illinois
Contact:

Post by MSimon »

You can always drive a carriage, just not a car...
Right retained, just not the way you want it.
Well sure. And then when you bang into it with your auto you will be responsible. I hope you are insured. Because you will get taken for everything you own otherwise. Nice way to get a motor vehicle on the cheap. If you don't mind getting banged up a bit. Heh.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

Skipjack
Posts: 6898
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Post by Skipjack »

Well sure. And then when you bang into it with your auto you will be responsible. I hope you are insured.
That depends. It could be my fault, if I banged into it. And you can be sure that I will be insured for the case that this happens. Honest mistakes do happen to everyone now and then.
I did not get the connection in your final two sentences, but anyway...

MSimon
Posts: 14335
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Rockford, Illinois
Contact:

Post by MSimon »

"There is no friendship in business"
So true. For you. But there is honor and honesty if you are willing to practice it. At least for yourself. If not for others.

BTW contrary to your assertion I have quite a few friends from business. People with integrity are drawn to others of similar lights. It is easy to figure out who the cheats are. I generally shun them unless association is unavoidable.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

Skipjack
Posts: 6898
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Post by Skipjack »

So true. For you. But there is honor and honesty if you are willing to practice it. At least for yourself. If not for others.
Well I am still living by it, but I am much, much more careful with who I trust. Generally I have totally lost my believe in people being trustworthy and having integrity since then. I am a changed man now, again, thanks to a mormon, republican.
I should have mentioned: I learned by lessen the hard way, the very hard way.

Of course people always find a way to justify their actions to themselves anyway. They will always do that. He sure has some excuse for him and his god as to why what he did was alright. Religious zealots are very good at rationalizing things, you know.

MSimon
Posts: 14335
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:37 pm
Location: Rockford, Illinois
Contact:

Post by MSimon »

I believe in religion. I do not believe in zealotry.

Let me amend that. I do not have to believe in religion. I have experienced The Force.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

Skipjack
Posts: 6898
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Post by Skipjack »

I believe in the flying spaghetti monster ;)
Anyway, maybe you did not get my point. I had to learn that other people wont respect friendship in business. I still do so, very much actually and it has cost me dearly in the past.
Clear?

JLawson
Posts: 424
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:31 pm
Location: Georgia
Contact:

Post by JLawson »

MSimon wrote: Let me amend that. I do not have to believe in religion. I have experienced The Force.
Yeah, you accidentally grab the uninsulated clips of a 300v, 1 amp DC power supply and you become a believer QUICK. :shock:

After you peel yourself off the wall you slammed up against...

Not that it ever happened to me or anything... :oops:
When opinion and reality conflict - guess which one is going to win in the long run.

Post Reply