I'm not appealing to popularity.
I'm appealing to voters.
http://www.theweedblog.com/oregon-canna ... er-ballot/
Ahh secularism...
Yes. I am working on behalf of queers to end the persecutions of queers. Proud of it too. I have a few good friends who are queers. Once had a queer girlfriend. Also her girlfriend. Tasty.Diogenes wrote:You must be working on behalf of the queer agenda as well. It is also currently on the upswing in social popularity. On the other hand, what is it they say about correlation not equaling causation?MSimon wrote:There is nothing like sending jackbooted thugs after your own children to convince them that your policy prescriptions have no merit.
Brilliant move on your part I must say. Keep up the good work.
Prohibition is the very best recruiting tool the libertarians have. It has got to smart to be outplayed by a bunch of lazy dopers.
The harder you fight the more I win. Keep fighting. Then I don't have to work so hard. The laziness factor kicking in I guess.
Social fads come and go. Nature/Evolution decides what stays. I think that I am looking at a bigger picture than do you.
Care to accuse me of something else? I enjoy it. Immensely.
You do realize that Prohibition of Drugs is a Progressive Social Fad that has run its course. We never had such ideas in America until Progressives gained sway. I never knew you were a Progressive. Learn something new every day.
I think crime families have more to do with the current situation than nature. Drug warriors Pelosi and Biden are friends with the Genovese and Gambinos respectively.
I never knew you were aligned with the mobsters and Pelosi/Biden. Learn something new every day.
Did you know that the Republicans of 1914 opposed the Harrison Narcotics act because they believed the Federal government had no such power. So what did the Progressives do? Passed it as a tax. Heh.
Constitutionalist Timothy Leary took it to the Supreme Court and got it declared invalid. So what did the politicians do? Passed another law using the Commerce Clause excuse.
Sound familiar?
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I'm one of the old style 1914 Republicans in many ways. Not one of them newfangled Progressive Republicans.
I'm bi-partisan too. I will work with Democrats to reduce government imposed social restrictions and with Republicans to reduce government imposed economic restrictions. See the theme there?
The more restrictions you have the more enforcers you need to enforce them. I'm against police states and authoritarianism.
I'm bi-partisan too. I will work with Democrats to reduce government imposed social restrictions and with Republicans to reduce government imposed economic restrictions. See the theme there?
The more restrictions you have the more enforcers you need to enforce them. I'm against police states and authoritarianism.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Sorry, but I dont agree. National Socialism is an ideology with a very strong mythological base. It made use of a broad range of religious believes and combined them in order to get people to do what they wanted. You dont want to say that any of the believes of the Nazis were based on science and fact, would you (because that is what true secularism would be about)?It's forcing things to say Hitler had his own religion. That's pretty preposterous. It's much more fair to call his outrageous antics the result of secularism as it was a separation between the powers of state and religion that promoted the Nazis takeover of Germany.
Now D. you say that many of the things I would allow will fail on their own. If that is so why do you need government guns to enforce your position. Isn't that a waste?
You will probably say that we can't afford it. I would respond that we can't afford all those enforcers. And my proposition is currently self evident.
Did you know that since Drug Prohibition was ramped up the clearance rates for murder and theft have declined precipitously? I'd say that Prohibition has had a negative effect on personal safety. Same thing happened in that other Prohibition. Evidently the Party supposedly most informed by history is not.
You will probably say that we can't afford it. I would respond that we can't afford all those enforcers. And my proposition is currently self evident.
Did you know that since Drug Prohibition was ramped up the clearance rates for murder and theft have declined precipitously? I'd say that Prohibition has had a negative effect on personal safety. Same thing happened in that other Prohibition. Evidently the Party supposedly most informed by history is not.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I have studied the matter in depth. And I agree with Skipjack. Look up the connection between Aleister Crowley, the Golden Dawn, the OTO, and Hitler. It is all out there for anyone who cares to look.Skipjack wrote:Sorry, but I dont agree. National Socialism is an ideology with a very strong mythological base. It made use of a broad range of religious believes and combined them in order to get people to do what they wanted. You dont want to say that any of the believes of the Nazis were based on science and fact, would you (because that is what true secularism would be about)?It's forcing things to say Hitler had his own religion. That's pretty preposterous. It's much more fair to call his outrageous antics the result of secularism as it was a separation between the powers of state and religion that promoted the Nazis takeover of Germany.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
This book is pretty good on the subject. It is where my researches in the matter started.
The Morning of the Magicians (Mysteries of the Universe )
The Morning of the Magicians (Mysteries of the Universe )
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Another good exposition on the subject that conforms to what I have learned. A very good starting point for further 'net researches.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/2007/0129a.htm
http://www.illuminati-news.com/2007/0129a.htm
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I have used OTO methods to obtain certain states of mind. They work. This fact is used to get people to think they have special power and thus follow their goals. But any religious organization does the same. If you are a rebel like me you resist any such conclusion. There are many paths. They all ultimately use the same methods. They then say, "See. We were right. So we must be right about everything else." Well that is a siren song that will take you into the rocks.
At some point you have to choose between the Dark and the Light. The OTO method encourages Darkness. However, when the Devil calls you are not required to listen.
I believe all religions at their very highest levels are followers of darkness. Without exception. I generally avoid organized religion except for the experience. But I have no interest in hierarchy. Notice? I reject authoritarianism. Totally.
At some point you have to choose between the Dark and the Light. The OTO method encourages Darkness. However, when the Devil calls you are not required to listen.
I believe all religions at their very highest levels are followers of darkness. Without exception. I generally avoid organized religion except for the experience. But I have no interest in hierarchy. Notice? I reject authoritarianism. Totally.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Of course he has his own agenda. But the organizational links are correct. I'm not sure he is entirely correct about their intentions. The results are obvious for all to see.MSimon wrote:Another good exposition on the subject that conforms to what I have learned. A very good starting point for further 'net researches.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/2007/0129a.htm
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Dude, I have been on this board for so many years now, but I think I finally get you!I have used OTO methods to obtain certain states of mind. They work. This fact is used to get people to think they have special power and thus follow their goals. But any religious organization does the same. If you are a rebel like me you resist any such conclusion. There are many paths. They all ultimately use the same methods. They then say, "See. We were right. So we must be right about everything else." Well that is a siren song that will take you into the rocks.
At some point you have to choose between the Dark and the Light. The OTO method encourages Darkness. However, when the Devil calls you are not required to listen.
I believe all religions at their very highest levels are followers of darkness. Without exception. I generally avoid organized religion except for the experience. But I have no interest in hierarchy. Notice? I reject authoritarianism. Totally.
The first Star Wars Trilogy is an excellent exposition of the occult journey. It struck a chord in the popular imagination.
It all begins with the search for a father who abandoned the child. Typical for those who suffered child abuse at the hand of the father. Crowley definitely had that problem. Hitler's early life was obscured but seems similar.
All the above is one of the reasons I keep harping on the issue of child abuse and its dangers. It darkens the spirit.
It all begins with the search for a father who abandoned the child. Typical for those who suffered child abuse at the hand of the father. Crowley definitely had that problem. Hitler's early life was obscured but seems similar.
All the above is one of the reasons I keep harping on the issue of child abuse and its dangers. It darkens the spirit.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Send me a PM. I wouldn't mind discussing it further in a somewhat private setting.Skipjack wrote:Dude, I have been on this board for so many years now, but I think I finally get you! ;)I have used OTO methods to obtain certain states of mind. They work. This fact is used to get people to think they have special power and thus follow their goals. But any religious organization does the same. If you are a rebel like me you resist any such conclusion. There are many paths. They all ultimately use the same methods. They then say, "See. We were right. So we must be right about everything else." Well that is a siren song that will take you into the rocks.
At some point you have to choose between the Dark and the Light. The OTO method encourages Darkness. However, when the Devil calls you are not required to listen.
I believe all religions at their very highest levels are followers of darkness. Without exception. I generally avoid organized religion except for the experience. But I have no interest in hierarchy. Notice? I reject authoritarianism. Totally.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
You can embrace a concept of morality without reference to religion. Secularism doesn't imply amorality.Diogenes wrote:Let me try again. "Secularity" is not a natural condition for humans. It provides no basis for an inherent system of morality, and as a result it will fall apart if it should ever managed to attain any significant degree of influence.
While that is the path history has taken, I think assuming that there could not have been any other path to Humanism shows a certain lack of imagination.GIThruster wrote:I think all these attempts are a little too surface to be useful. In general though, Christianity is what gave rise to both secularism and Humanism. Neither could ever have been created in a world without Christianity.